Compared to .22 LR, well, there is no comparison. Same with a .17 or .22. for game/pelt/meat keeping , the m2 is better, not so explosive. A crow may explode at 50 yards, but over 100 yards the wing bones may stop a .17. Pictured From right to left: CCI .22 LR .38 grain Minimag, CCI 22 LR .40 grain Standard, Eley 17 HM2, CCI 17 HMR 20 Grain FMJ, Federal 17 HMR 17 grain JHP On a personal note, I have a few 17 HM2 rifles, and I think they are fantastic options as late season squirrel guns. If you .22 can shoot them well some of the hyper velocity rounds have OK ballistics out to 100, but it will never come close to the .17's. It is superior in every way to the HM2. Which .17 caliber- HMR or HM2 or Hornet and which rifle for take down survival use. and i was wondering can i shoot 17 hm2 out of it? I see no reason why a .17 HMR barrel would not swap directly onto a Ruger 10/22 Magnum, just as a .17 Mach 2 barrel swaps easily onto a standard 10/22. The Need for Speed: The .17 HMR. you want cheaper buy a darn .22 long rifle that is capable of shooting long's and short's . 17 hmr has 17 gr bullet that can be propelled to 2590 ft/sec at the muzzle which is a great value for making it reliable for a lot of objects. Long range shot with clean kill on a rabbit, at 282 yards and an 8mph cross wind. The HMR will kill groundhogs but out to 100 yards I can kill them just as well with an accurate 22 and beyond that a 22 mag works just as well. Well I’ve noticed that the great one D.P. The Sako Quad HMR at just less than 200 yards. Would a bolt action 17 hmr be capable of shooting 17 hm2 ammunition? Just as you cannot shoot a .22 LR in a gun chambered for .22 WMR, so to the .17 HM2 and the .17 HMR. The .17 HMR, it does a number on Squirrel, Rabbit and even known to destroy the meat. Exactly, the 17 hmr is good for those that are good enough/willing to make effective shots out to ~175 yards. Ruger 77 with the drop-in Green Mountain .17 HMR barrel and my custom single shot Husqvarna with the Green Mountain .17 HM2. What should be your choice? Know the target and know the range. You can get HM2's very easy so you should do it the safe way. Those are two completely different rounds, with different amounts of powder and case size. Before You Buy, You Should to: Reading the consumer reviews of Weatherby 17 Hmr Rifle For Sale And 17 Hm2 Rifle Manufacturers before purchase. All Time Today Last Week Last Month. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Both rifles are inexpensive and extraordinary. Collapse. Some 17 HMR rifles can use different and bigger calibers, which is even better. First - they are two totally different sized projectiles - the 17 would have so much extra room it would never touch the lands and grooves. Before I bought the HMR I looked into converting my 10/22 into an HM2, but the conversion was too expensive and there were too many horror stories. That question is pretty easily answered using a little data and combining that with a lot of shooting at long range. The HMR was a response by Hornady to wildcatters who were looking for a solid replacement for the 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum, which was the fastest rimfire round on the market. Good guns. I just never saw the need personally for a 17, if I want small and fast I would go 22 magnum. Previous template Next. All cartridge dimensions, except bullet diameter are different. The .17 hmr is great, but I do a lot of shooting from 200 yards, and don't really go through a lot of ammo per outing (about 25 - 50 rounds). Art Eatman Moderator Emeritus. You cannot shoot ,17 caliber ammo through an unmodified 10/22. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Ruger 77 with the drop-in Green Mountain .17 HMR barrel and my custom single shot Husqvarna with the Green Mountain .17 HM2. It’s Consistent Designed with a free-floating, button rifled barrel, corrosion resistant chrome plated bolt, bolt release and removable … It's lightweight, accurate, incredibly reliable and fires a flat-shooting round that's much quieter than the .17 HMR. All Discussions only Photos only Videos only Links only Polls only Events only. That cartridge is considered by many to be superior to the venerable .22 LR cartridge and because of its speed, it is sure fun to shoot. the shell case is the same diameter.if i read right the hm2 is a bit longer right?i dont see why because the hmr is based on the 22 mag case which is longer than the hm2 mother case the 22 long rifle.can anyone shed light on this i dont have a spec book and found nothing about it other than wikipedia and it just dont jive. If you enjoy shooting the .17 HMR cartridge, then shoot away. Considering the size disparity of the two cases, the results were initially surprising, even to Emary. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ for information on posting and navigating the forums. thanks cooner,i understand now.someone needs to get with wikipedia and set those guys straight .they state the hm2 is longer when it isnt,i need to get a book on this stuff for reference sometime.once again thanx. I seem to get a lot of questions around the 17 hmr centered around how far you can actually shoot it accurately. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SureThing, Jun 1, 2009. Everyone go buy a .17 HM2, not a HMR. hunting bullet offering (XTP & Game Point) when you need penetration on larger critters. What exactly is the problem with this cartridge and the conversion for the 10/22? I had .17 HMRs in my .22 Magnum magazine of my Marlin model 882 22 mag rifle. And too often on ground shots, a squirrel hops just as you shoot, and you end up with a body shot, despite the best of holds and trigger squeeze. check out the. The .17 HMR is a necked down version of the .22 Magnum and generally uses a 17-grain bullet, though you can also find rounds with 20 grain and 15.5-grain bullets. Compared to the HMR, 17 HM2 is cheaper and not as big of a step down in performance as many people would claim. Best Uses For a .17 HMR . You just can't beat the price for the ammo. Based on the.22 Long Rifle rimfire case, the new.17 Mach 2 (.17M2) is necked to seat a 17-grain,.17-caliber Hornady V-Max bullet and is powered to a nominal 2100 fps velocity from a standard SAAMI-reference 24-inch rifle barrel. I guarantee you that a HM2 will load and shoot out of a HMR bolt. The .17 Hornady Mach 2, or .17 HM2, is a rimfire cartridge introduced in 2004 by the ammunition manufacturer Hornady, following the successful launch in 2002 of the .17 HMR.The .17 HM2 is based on the .22 Long Rifle "Stinger" case, necked down to .17 caliber (4.5 mm) and using a bullet weighing less than half the weight of a typical .22 Long Rifle bullet. The 17 Mach 2 (HM2) is making a resurgence, as it is less expensive than 17 HMR and it can b… i have a henry h001 .17 hmr. What the .22 lacks in speed and long-range effectiveness, the .17 HMR happily makes up. I'm pretty sure the 17 hm2 can shoot pretty flat out to almost 150 or so. Definitely go 17 HMR if you choose to go with the 17 caliber. As far as I know you can still get Volquartsons conversion barrel and bolt, but for the price you could have a dandy bolt gun chambered for it and a scope and a sling and rings and targets and gas money to the range and... you get my point. Make sure you don't see any fraudulent charges. The 17 HM2 is a flat shooting tack driver with achievable velocities of 2,100 ft/s. Maverick, you might contact Bo Clerke in Raton, NM. Obviously, shooter skill and wind will have a large effect on this as ranges extend. While a head shot with the HMR ruins no meat, it sure makes for an ugly dead squirrel. Here you will find hunting, fishing, and survival tips from the editors of Field and Stream, as well as recommendations from readers like yourself. Nope. .17 HM2 The 17 HM2 barrels for the Ruger 77/22, Sako P94 & Quad, CZ 455 and Remington 504 are chambered with a Pacific Precision Grinding match-type reamer. After that the bullet drops rather quickly. The Sako Quad HMR at just less than 200 yards. Posts; Latest Activity; Photos . If you get a new rifle for 300 dollars that is about 20 boxes of HMR and 75 boxes of HM2 The .17 HMR is basically a necked down .22 Mag..17 HMR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A 17 gr bullet will go 2,550ft/sec and has 245ft/lbs of energy. The derivation of these cartridges is:.17 HM2 = .22 CCI Stinger round (slightly longer than a std .22 LR case) necked down to .17.17 HMR = .22 WMR necked down to .17 Adios, Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. If your 10/22 is not a magnum, you will have to shoot the .17 Mach II in it. A big advantage of the HMR is the 20 gr. A 17 HMR rifle is designed and balanced to operate properly with a full-weight hammer to shoot at a high speed or velocity and also, like any other, there is a break-in period to take most out of this 17hmr too. The 17 Mach 2 (HM2) is making a resurgence, as it is less expensive than 17 HMR and it can be shot from rifles converted from .22 LR since it shares the .22 LR cartridge OAL. Sarge01, that's quite alright sir and thank you for your service. If you want to buy Weatherby 17 Hmr Rifle For Sale And 17 Hm2 Rifle Manufacturers. If you cannot purchase ammunition for a gun, it’s a paperweight, and therefore, there was no interest in the round. X. Very unsafe, if it would even chamber. As much as I love .22 LR, it can't hold a candle to 17 HM2, especially when you start talking about making shots from 100 to 200 yards. The .17 HM2 is basically a necked down .22 LR Stinger..17 HM2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A 17 gr bullet will go 2,100ft/sec and has 166ft/lbs of energy. Not only is the bullet diameter smaller, but the cartridge case of a .17 HMT is longer than a .22 LR case. Strike three. But I would not recommend it. All cartridge dimensions, except bullet diameter are different. The 17 HMR is a very popular round, available from multiple manufacturers — CCI, Hornady, and now Norma. Minute of very-small varmint! Sticker shock I guess. It is three times as expensive as .22 LR ammo but … Please buy it from trusted store. Filter. It may not go into the bore when it was fired and could act as an obstruction. Haven't shot anything with the WSM yet. Many companies have attempted to harness bottleneck rimfires into semiauto platforms. Unfired rounds can be extracted from these chambers. So the cartridge's neck will go into the bore, and when it expands to let the bullet go, it will probably expand enough to stick it in the chamber. This makes it safer than any of the.22 LR bullets for small game and varmint hunting in semi-populated areas. Time. Designed with a free-floating, button rifled barrel, corrosion resistant chrome plated bolt, bolt release and removable dust cover for improved functionality. No, the HMR round is based on the .22 mag case and the HM2 round is based on the .22 LR case. Have both a 17 HMR and a 17 WSM. HM2 ammo is way cheaper, and it would be nice to have the ability to change. He has earned the right to retire in my opinion. You wouldn’t. 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